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Etsy shows its true colors

Today I was planning on no longer going to the Etsy forums. I can waste a lot of time there and it is also an emotional drain. But a friend pointed out a situation to me and I had to post. I copied it and am posting it here, because I feel almost certain they will remove it and ban me. I could be wrong, but I don’t really care.

Here is the article I read:

And here is the petition to get it shut down:


and here is my response on this thread:


I had made a vow not to come to the forums anymore as they were so full of either negativity or time wasting fluff.
But my vow was broken after only one day because someone mentioned this situation to me and I had to investigate.

I am disgusted at what I have seen. I am disgusted that the shop in question was not shut completely down IMMEDIATELY, especially considering the reprehensible shirt that is featured in the sold items and can not be hidden.

I am sickened that they chose to go through it item by item instead of pulling the whole thing down, when they have banned many MANY sellers (and buyers) from having a voice on the forums just for questioning the state of the site or for many other relatively small infractions. Permamutes are WAY more rampant than some of you may think.

I am appalled that I see a few people saying things like “well, it’s not that bad. Let Etsy do it’s job” No. It IS that bad.
Baby rape. Think abut it for a minute or two. I’ll wait…..

BABY RAPE. I don’t have, nor do I plan to have, kids. But until Etsy pulls this shop completely and replaces it with a 3 armed sweater, we are all on a site that tacitly condones this by leaving up a baby rape shirt in the sold orders of this shop.
Some of the worst of the other items were taken down… but baby rape is still there for the world to see.

Something happened to me as a child. It was small compared to what some have suffered, but it is a memory burned in to my psyche.
You can make light of it, say it isn’t a big deal, just “guy humor” but you are wrong. Dead wrong.
There is a line that has been crossed, and by not IMMEDIATELY recoiling in horror, Etsy has shown me another true color.

Since I mentioned permamutes and tacitly condoning baby rape, this might be my blaze of glory. My plan to avoid the forums might not involve willpower after all if I get banned too, but that is ok. I picked my battles and this is it. Here is where I stand.
I feel physically ill. And if you are thinking it’s no big deal or just an overreaction, then be glad you have the luxury to feel that way

I was ok with my decision to have a smaller, more focused shop here and a larger shop elsewhere… but now I will have to think very very hard about that decision.
I can’t afford to pull everything, I just can’t. But I can afford to never renew again.

8 responses

  1. Sara

    I have been reading this thread with increasing horror and concern. I first read about the issue last night on a thread that was closed by admin (because people were saying nasty mean things about a poor innocent shop seller. The implication being that just because you don’t agree with what he sells, it doesn’t mean you can call him out or verbally attack him – funny how quick they are so quick to close threads where right minded people try to speak, but they can’t close the shop of someone selling sick t shirts promoting violence). I am a permamute so can’t respond on the boards. Etsy seem to have no integrity or honour at all and I am disgusted that the shop was not shut down immediately. Etsy are not a site I want to be allied to as a seller and so I do not sell there. I am increasingly not buying there either. I also note as a buyer, those sellers who have integrity and have taken their shops elsewhere. It seems many sellers make excuses for the behaviour of etsy in order to feel they can keep their shops open there. It is beyond me too, that so many seem to condone the new guidelines as well and being treated so badly by the site that they the sellers made a success. Well this is worse than that. This is condoning messages/slogans that promote hate crimes and violence. If you become a vessel for spreading the message that this is ok then you are facilitating the author’s sick mind and helping him to communicate with likeminded sick individuals. This seems to me what esty is currently being doing – acting as an enabler.

    Just get on with it etsy. Close the shop now. And any others like it too.

    October 24, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    • Exactly, Sara.
      I had gotten to a place where I was ok with just using them to have my wares out there. Not advertizing for them and putting my energy into Zibbet. But I really can’t see myself renewing ANY of my items after this.

      Anything other than an IMMEDIATE and full shut down of that shop is too little too late for me.
      Thanks for your comment

      October 24, 2013 at 12:30 pm

  2. I actually reported it to Admin Matt in Bugs in a private email, as soon as the first thread about the Baby Rape shop opened up, telling him it was very urgent, could he do something about this and get the right people on this shop right away.

    What got done “right away” was close down that thread, and every other one of people expressing their horror that this was on Etsy at all.

    Incredibly, Admin posted they were “investigating” the items. So one by one the rape and baby rape items were taken down (except for one). Instead of closing the shop immediately, as the tou the shopkeeper agreed when he opened up allowed.

    I have emptied one shop, and will empty the other two as soon as I can. Because this IS the final straw for me.

    Etsy has not done its job. Their new partner, Martha Stewart might say, “It’s a Good Thing.” No, it is not. Not at all.

    October 24, 2013 at 4:17 pm

    • By the way, the urgent message I sent to the Etsy Admin on duty was 2 days ago…

      October 24, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    • That is unbelievable. The other stuff I could file under “just business” this I cannot.

      October 24, 2013 at 4:23 pm

  3. I lost what little respect I had left for Etsy when they decided that they were just going to forget that whole “handmade marketplace” they made their name on and allow mass productions to be sold on the site. They pretty much proved the strength of their convictions on that one as far as I was concerned.

    October 24, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    • Agreed, and that is when a lot of us sellers began to seriously migrate over to Zibbet.
      This is just a huge straw beating a poor camel to death

      October 24, 2013 at 7:40 pm

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